I was part of the Hebrew Roots/Messianic philosophy for 12 years and seeing now that the observations of Sabbath beginning at sundown to sundown showed to whom I was bowing (Judaism/Parisienne system influenced by Babylon). Now I'm in a Sunday church that reveals in its practices and beliefs a certain allegiance to the papacy.
So...now I'm in a desert once again...alone trying to obey what The Lord of The Sabbath taught.
Not sure there's any group of Christians that are keeping a true Biblical Sabbath.
It is a mess for sure because we are close to the end. I haven't found a church I honestly feel motivated to go to, and that may be bad but it is what it is. All denominations will be integrated and we have fellowship with the Lord first and foremost.
Hmmm so what I've been picking up on since leaving a Messianic/Charismatic church is how these massive revivals like the mosts recent, "Baptize California" with ambition of taking it across the country is all part of the Jesuit system. ???
You got it. The charismatic movement is the new thing which will glue everyone together under the beast. Messianics are the Judas goats that will get the Jews converted, and the NAR has infiltrated every aspect of lukewarm Christianity to bring it back to Christian nationalism. The bible warns of apostasy, deception, false teachers, false prophets and the mark of the beast in the end times. These "revivals" believe that things are getting better, which is exactly walking into the trap of the enemy.
In light of the church being the true temple and God no longer revealing Himself through Israel how are we to read Romans 11...in the picture of the natural Olive tree and cutting off and grafting in of wild branches.
I'm confused about what part of Judaism to honor...and not to boast in my grafting in as a wild olive branch.
I can understand it is a bit confusing, especially since most of the world has been deceived by dispensationalism. If you haven't already, watch my documentary "Why the Jews are Not God's Chosen People" to understand why Judaism is not at all related to the bible and to the Levitical religion the Hebrews/Israelites had in the Old Testament. So that's first.
Regarding Romans 11, Paul also describes God's plan for the Jews as being based on the conversion of the Gentiles. It was destined by God for them to reject Jesus, so that there would be a precedent for giving the gospel to the nations - since God had to choose a select people to reveal His plan in the first place. Therefore the Jews had to reject Jesus, and those elect Jews who will come to the gospel will do so out of jealousy for their Christian brothers favor and relationship with God. We are to treat them with kindness like anyone else, and use any opportunity to show them that Jesus is their Messiah.
The grafting in part is often twisted by dispensationalists to reserve some special honor to fleshly Israel. Again, modern Israel has nothing to do with fleshly Israel, so this means something else. In context, Paul is reminding the gentiles that the Jews suffered from entitlement ("we are Abraham's offspring" etc.) and to not get that same sense of entitlement by now being God's people, since the plan of salvation has become open to all. We are grafted into a covenant that we did nothing to earn, just like the Jews of Jesus' time were trying to claim favor because of their connection to Abraham. Grace is a free gift and God owes nobody anything, so we are to remember that.
But the Church, which is the body of Christ, is the fulfillment of the scriptures and of God's plan. Physical Israel was a type and shadow for the Church. The Church does not replace Israel, it is the fulfillment of Israel. Unfortunately many call this "replacement theology" but the real replacement theology is dispensationalism. It replaces the bride of Christ with the Jews, replaces the spiritual temple with a physical one, replaces a systemic antichrist with a personal one, replaces centuries of tribulation with 7 years in the future and many other inversions.
As always, we treat people with love and give them an opportunity with the gospel when we see it. Besides that, there is no special honor anyone gets because of their lineage or bloodline or culture, let alone today when Judaism has nothing to do with biblical Israel.
I was part of the Hebrew Roots/Messianic philosophy for 12 years and seeing now that the observations of Sabbath beginning at sundown to sundown showed to whom I was bowing (Judaism/Parisienne system influenced by Babylon). Now I'm in a Sunday church that reveals in its practices and beliefs a certain allegiance to the papacy.
So...now I'm in a desert once again...alone trying to obey what The Lord of The Sabbath taught.
Not sure there's any group of Christians that are keeping a true Biblical Sabbath.
Oofdah!
It is a mess for sure because we are close to the end. I haven't found a church I honestly feel motivated to go to, and that may be bad but it is what it is. All denominations will be integrated and we have fellowship with the Lord first and foremost.
So...how should we hear the Lord's command in Hebrews 10:25 to not forsake the assembling of yourselves especially as the day draws near?
You do not need to go to a church to have fellowship with other Christians :)
Ahhh....the minute I posted that comment, I caught an inkling of that perspective.
Parisienne = Pharisaic
Do you see a correlation between the seven mountains of Rome/Vatican and the Seven Mountain Mandate of The New Apostolic Reformation?
Absolutely. There's only one entity that would give a "mandate" to turn the world Christian nationalist and that's not Jesus.
Hmmm so what I've been picking up on since leaving a Messianic/Charismatic church is how these massive revivals like the mosts recent, "Baptize California" with ambition of taking it across the country is all part of the Jesuit system. ???
You got it. The charismatic movement is the new thing which will glue everyone together under the beast. Messianics are the Judas goats that will get the Jews converted, and the NAR has infiltrated every aspect of lukewarm Christianity to bring it back to Christian nationalism. The bible warns of apostasy, deception, false teachers, false prophets and the mark of the beast in the end times. These "revivals" believe that things are getting better, which is exactly walking into the trap of the enemy.
In light of the church being the true temple and God no longer revealing Himself through Israel how are we to read Romans 11...in the picture of the natural Olive tree and cutting off and grafting in of wild branches.
I'm confused about what part of Judaism to honor...and not to boast in my grafting in as a wild olive branch.
Hi Irene,
I can understand it is a bit confusing, especially since most of the world has been deceived by dispensationalism. If you haven't already, watch my documentary "Why the Jews are Not God's Chosen People" to understand why Judaism is not at all related to the bible and to the Levitical religion the Hebrews/Israelites had in the Old Testament. So that's first.
Regarding Romans 11, Paul also describes God's plan for the Jews as being based on the conversion of the Gentiles. It was destined by God for them to reject Jesus, so that there would be a precedent for giving the gospel to the nations - since God had to choose a select people to reveal His plan in the first place. Therefore the Jews had to reject Jesus, and those elect Jews who will come to the gospel will do so out of jealousy for their Christian brothers favor and relationship with God. We are to treat them with kindness like anyone else, and use any opportunity to show them that Jesus is their Messiah.
The grafting in part is often twisted by dispensationalists to reserve some special honor to fleshly Israel. Again, modern Israel has nothing to do with fleshly Israel, so this means something else. In context, Paul is reminding the gentiles that the Jews suffered from entitlement ("we are Abraham's offspring" etc.) and to not get that same sense of entitlement by now being God's people, since the plan of salvation has become open to all. We are grafted into a covenant that we did nothing to earn, just like the Jews of Jesus' time were trying to claim favor because of their connection to Abraham. Grace is a free gift and God owes nobody anything, so we are to remember that.
But the Church, which is the body of Christ, is the fulfillment of the scriptures and of God's plan. Physical Israel was a type and shadow for the Church. The Church does not replace Israel, it is the fulfillment of Israel. Unfortunately many call this "replacement theology" but the real replacement theology is dispensationalism. It replaces the bride of Christ with the Jews, replaces the spiritual temple with a physical one, replaces a systemic antichrist with a personal one, replaces centuries of tribulation with 7 years in the future and many other inversions.
As always, we treat people with love and give them an opportunity with the gospel when we see it. Besides that, there is no special honor anyone gets because of their lineage or bloodline or culture, let alone today when Judaism has nothing to do with biblical Israel.
Thank you Tudor, that was very helpful!